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Showing posts with label White. Show all posts
Showing posts with label White. Show all posts

Monday, April 1, 2013







Saturday, March 2, 2013




thanks to Ulisses for sharing! 

Monday, October 1, 2012

 the White is a 1941 that Gilmore owned originally. Posted here http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2012/09/1941-white-semi-tractor-trailer-that.html

the red white and black is a 1955 Kenworth



 this orange and black is a 1971 Kenworth



and this brown Kenworth is a 1969... I posted a couple photos last weekend of it, Jeff bought this at age 19, and worked with it for the next 20 years, getting 3 million miles under and behind him... he then converted it with the only stipulations from his wife that it have a toilet and a shower. They're both happy!

http://www.aths.org/ for the website of the American Truck Historical Society
and they get together for convoys occasionally like this Route 66 news item in the San Berdo Sun Newspaper article: http://www.sbsun.com/ci_21552862

Sunday, July 1, 2012


old US 80 started its life as the course of the wild 1913 Great Desert Race from Los Angeles to Phoenix. In preparation for the race, Locke took Barney Oldfield over the road to show him how to navigate rough desert terrain.



 Front page news, as so many publicity stunt car races were, imagine what passed for news in 1908-1914... not much. Publicity garnered by car companies getting stunts accomplished by the hardy and stamina having tough bastards that could hang in through exposure to all sorts of weather (open cars with no tops) and no roads, well this was nearly hero stuff in that age, and heroes making their way across your country is heady stuff that sold papers... everyone came out a winner. The drivers made a couple thousand per win.

That is why the 1908 New York to San Fran, the Paris to Peking, and the New York to Paris were etched in the cultural knowledge... new things that cars were, plus publicity, added to entertainment and a competition.. it's about as close to amazing as it got in 1908-1914. The times were full of historical firsts, heroes, and miracles. The first human flight in an airplane, the first roads, the first cars, etc etc


The first race was won by a steam powered White. The vehicles White made were so good, one was bought by the White House for President Taft's limo, and Buffalo Bill had one also.

 above on the far right is Barney Oldfield, and he is driving the car he took to 4th place in the Indy 500 just months before. He won the Desert Classic with it.
for more about this, see http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2012/06/june-21st-6pm-san-diego-auto-museum-is.html

Sunday, June 17, 2012


















Wednesday, June 6, 2012


above images from http://www.gambleart.com/Barney%20Oldfield.htm

http://www.arizonaracinghistory.com/cactusderbyintro.htm has a good bit of history about the "Cactus Derby", it was 511 miles,

Briefly, when the cars were still a marvel in the US, and people raced them because it was the most incredible thing to do, faster than a horse could run, or a passenger could ride a train, all sorts of unusual events were almost commonplace to test drivers and the new contraptions called Automobiles, and a lot of people went racing in any form possible. The Paris to Peking, the New York to Paris, the New York to San Fran, the Vanderbilt Cup, beach racing at Ormond, Daytona, Bonneville and the dry lakes of So Cal... but you may not have heard of the LA to Phoenix races through the desert.

The lack of roads, lack of pre-racing course preparation, and there not being any gas stations, service stations, parts stores, helpful bystanders, mechanics, or even towns to drive through made desert races incredibly difficult.

http://sdautomuseum.org/events/desert-racing-history-michael-anthony doesn't have any details though

So I'm going to try to make it to that speech, or q and a, and learn! I did find out that the first car to win was a White car, powered by a steam engine. At that time (1908?) White was such a great car that the President got one,http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2007/06/presidential-limo-circa-1909.html  and Buffalo Bill did too http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2011/08/buffalo-bill-drove-white-steamer-in.html

the first 7 years of the Cactus Derby winners were driving the White steamer I mentioned, then a Buick, a Kissel Kar, something called National Baby Blue, a Franklin (aircooled was an advantage in the hot Southwest), a Locomobile, and in 1914 Barney Oldfield won in a Stutz

The race took about 30 hours, was on Nov 9th, and the desert on November has cold nights, and days in the 70's

Thursday, August 11, 2011

White steam cars

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